unsurprisingly the xray showed nothing. apart from my varicose veins which i can assure you, you don't need radiation to see. now i'm waiting for an mri, which will be able to show up cartilage damage. in the mean time i've made a decision. no more running. no more races and more importantly, no more feeling guilty about not running....until janurary, then i'll reassess.in the meantime, new hobbies are swimming and climbing. there'll be some cycling too, but mainly the road kind where the use of gears is kinder to my knee-no, 'i told you so's' please.